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		<title>By: Gwydion Suilebhan</title>
		<link>http://blog.cambiareproductions.com/2008/03/20/church/comment-page-1/#comment-1853</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwydion Suilebhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 01:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree more.  Theater is (or should be) more like churchgoing than religion... which puts me in mind of this poem by Philip Larkin:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Church-Going&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Once I am sure there&#039;s nothing going on&lt;br&gt;I step inside, letting the door thud shut.&lt;br&gt;Another church: matting, seats, and stone,&lt;br&gt;And little books; sprawlings of flowers, cut&lt;br&gt;For Sunday, brownish now; some brass and stuff&lt;br&gt;Up at the holy end; the small neat organ;&lt;br&gt;And a tense, musty, unignorable silence,&lt;br&gt;Brewed God knows how long. Hatless, I take off&lt;br&gt;My cycle-clips in awkward reverence.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Move forward, run my hand around the font.&lt;br&gt;From where I stand, the roof looks almost new -&lt;br&gt;Cleaned, or restored? Someone would know: I don&#039;t.&lt;br&gt;Mounting the lectern, I peruse a few&lt;br&gt;Hectoring large-scale verses, and pronounce&lt;br&gt;&#039;Here endeth&#039; much more loudly than I&#039;d meant.&lt;br&gt;The echoes snigger briefly. Back at the door&lt;br&gt;I sign the book, donate an Irish sixpence,&lt;br&gt;Reflect the place was not worth stopping for.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yet stop I did: in fact I often do,&lt;br&gt;And always end much at a loss like this,&lt;br&gt;Wondering what to look for; wondering, too,&lt;br&gt;When churches will fall completely out of use&lt;br&gt;What we shall turn them into, if we shall keep&lt;br&gt;A few cathedrals chronically on show,&lt;br&gt;Their parchment, plate and pyx in locked cases,&lt;br&gt;And let the rest rent-free to rain and sheep.&lt;br&gt;Shall we avoid them as unlucky places?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Or, after dark, will dubious women come&lt;br&gt;To make their children touch a particular stone;&lt;br&gt;Pick simples for a cancer; or on some&lt;br&gt;Advised night see walking a dead one?&lt;br&gt;Power of some sort will go on&lt;br&gt;In games, in riddles, seemingly at random;&lt;br&gt;But superstition, like belief, must die,&lt;br&gt;And what remains when disbelief has gone?&lt;br&gt;Grass, weedy pavement, brambles, buttress, sky,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A shape less recognisable each week,&lt;br&gt;A purpose more obscure. I wonder who&lt;br&gt;Will be the last, the very last, to seek&lt;br&gt;This place for what it was; one of the crew&lt;br&gt;That tap and jot and know what rood-lofts were?&lt;br&gt;Some ruin-bibber, randy for antique,&lt;br&gt;Or Christmas-addict, counting on a whiff&lt;br&gt;Of gown-and-bands and organ-pipes and myrrh?&lt;br&gt;Or will he be my representative,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bored, uninformed, knowing the ghostly silt&lt;br&gt;Dispersed, yet tending to this cross of ground&lt;br&gt;Through suburb scrub because it held unspilt&lt;br&gt;So long and equably what since is found&lt;br&gt;Only in separation - marriage, and birth,&lt;br&gt;And death, and thoughts of these - for which was built&lt;br&gt;This special shell? For, though I&#039;ve no idea&lt;br&gt;What this accoutred frowsty barn is worth,&lt;br&gt;It pleases me to stand in silence here;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A serious house on serious earth it is,&lt;br&gt;In whose blent air all our compulsions meet,&lt;br&gt;Are recognized, and robed as destinies.&lt;br&gt;And that much never can be obsolete,&lt;br&gt;Since someone will forever be surprising&lt;br&gt;A hunger in himself to be more serious,&lt;br&gt;And gravitating with it to this ground,&lt;br&gt;Which, he once heard, was proper to grow wise in,&lt;br&gt;If only that so many dead lie round.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#39;t agree more.  Theater is (or should be) more like churchgoing than religion&#8230; which puts me in mind of this poem by Philip Larkin:</p>
<p>Church-Going</p>
<p>Once I am sure there&#39;s nothing going on<br />I step inside, letting the door thud shut.<br />Another church: matting, seats, and stone,<br />And little books; sprawlings of flowers, cut<br />For Sunday, brownish now; some brass and stuff<br />Up at the holy end; the small neat organ;<br />And a tense, musty, unignorable silence,<br />Brewed God knows how long. Hatless, I take off<br />My cycle-clips in awkward reverence.</p>
<p>Move forward, run my hand around the font.<br />From where I stand, the roof looks almost new -<br />Cleaned, or restored? Someone would know: I don&#39;t.<br />Mounting the lectern, I peruse a few<br />Hectoring large-scale verses, and pronounce<br />&#39;Here endeth&#39; much more loudly than I&#39;d meant.<br />The echoes snigger briefly. Back at the door<br />I sign the book, donate an Irish sixpence,<br />Reflect the place was not worth stopping for.</p>
<p>Yet stop I did: in fact I often do,<br />And always end much at a loss like this,<br />Wondering what to look for; wondering, too,<br />When churches will fall completely out of use<br />What we shall turn them into, if we shall keep<br />A few cathedrals chronically on show,<br />Their parchment, plate and pyx in locked cases,<br />And let the rest rent-free to rain and sheep.<br />Shall we avoid them as unlucky places?</p>
<p>Or, after dark, will dubious women come<br />To make their children touch a particular stone;<br />Pick simples for a cancer; or on some<br />Advised night see walking a dead one?<br />Power of some sort will go on<br />In games, in riddles, seemingly at random;<br />But superstition, like belief, must die,<br />And what remains when disbelief has gone?<br />Grass, weedy pavement, brambles, buttress, sky,</p>
<p>A shape less recognisable each week,<br />A purpose more obscure. I wonder who<br />Will be the last, the very last, to seek<br />This place for what it was; one of the crew<br />That tap and jot and know what rood-lofts were?<br />Some ruin-bibber, randy for antique,<br />Or Christmas-addict, counting on a whiff<br />Of gown-and-bands and organ-pipes and myrrh?<br />Or will he be my representative,</p>
<p>Bored, uninformed, knowing the ghostly silt<br />Dispersed, yet tending to this cross of ground<br />Through suburb scrub because it held unspilt<br />So long and equably what since is found<br />Only in separation &#8211; marriage, and birth,<br />And death, and thoughts of these &#8211; for which was built<br />This special shell? For, though I&#39;ve no idea<br />What this accoutred frowsty barn is worth,<br />It pleases me to stand in silence here;</p>
<p>A serious house on serious earth it is,<br />In whose blent air all our compulsions meet,<br />Are recognized, and robed as destinies.<br />And that much never can be obsolete,<br />Since someone will forever be surprising<br />A hunger in himself to be more serious,<br />And gravitating with it to this ground,<br />Which, he once heard, was proper to grow wise in,<br />If only that so many dead lie round.</p>
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		<title>By: Gwydion Suilebhan</title>
		<link>http://blog.cambiareproductions.com/2008/03/20/church/comment-page-1/#comment-1852</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwydion Suilebhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 01:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I did... but I killed that blog about three years ago.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I do have the text of a talk I gave in St. Louis a couple of months ago -- one that I&#039;m giving again in DC in December.  It&#039;s called (Susp)ending (Dis)belief: Art and Atheism.  Hopefully the core of a one-day-finished book...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I did&#8230; but I killed that blog about three years ago.</p>
<p>I do have the text of a talk I gave in St. Louis a couple of months ago &#8212; one that I&#39;m giving again in DC in December.  It&#39;s called (Susp)ending (Dis)belief: Art and Atheism.  Hopefully the core of a one-day-finished book&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Reeder</title>
		<link>http://blog.cambiareproductions.com/2008/03/20/church/comment-page-1/#comment-1832</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Reeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 19:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, Gwydion.  Theater = religion is strained because theater is not religion.  Theater is, like churchgoing, a ritualized, communal experience.  It is that ritualized experience that keeps congregants coming through the doors of churches instead of just staying home and praying in dark corners.  They come because they feel welcomed and safe and part of something greater than themselves.  On our best days, that is what we try to do when we stage a production.  We extend an invitation to a shared, meaningful experience, and we dialogue about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, Gwydion.  Theater = religion is strained because theater is not religion.  Theater is, like churchgoing, a ritualized, communal experience.  It is that ritualized experience that keeps congregants coming through the doors of churches instead of just staying home and praying in dark corners.  They come because they feel welcomed and safe and part of something greater than themselves.  On our best days, that is what we try to do when we stage a production.  We extend an invitation to a shared, meaningful experience, and we dialogue about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Travis Bedard</title>
		<link>http://blog.cambiareproductions.com/2008/03/20/church/comment-page-1/#comment-1831</link>
		<dc:creator>Travis Bedard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 19:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you have a post or writings somewhere that talk about your reactions to&lt;br&gt;religion?&lt;br&gt;I just want some background rather than making assumptions about your&lt;br&gt;experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you have a post or writings somewhere that talk about your reactions to<br />religion?<br />I just want some background rather than making assumptions about your<br />experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Gwydion Suilebhan</title>
		<link>http://blog.cambiareproductions.com/2008/03/20/church/comment-page-1/#comment-1830</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwydion Suilebhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 17:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think part of the way in which churches are genuinely successful is by doing more than holding weekly services.  Community is built by all the church socials, the wakes, the bazaars, and the other events at which churchgoers are spending time together without listening to somebody preach.  That, I think, is what theaters ought to be doing to build community/congregations: holding non-theatrical events that bring audiences into the space to connect with each other.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For me, other than that, the theater = religion comparison is... strained.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think part of the way in which churches are genuinely successful is by doing more than holding weekly services.  Community is built by all the church socials, the wakes, the bazaars, and the other events at which churchgoers are spending time together without listening to somebody preach.  That, I think, is what theaters ought to be doing to build community/congregations: holding non-theatrical events that bring audiences into the space to connect with each other.</p>
<p>For me, other than that, the theater = religion comparison is&#8230; strained.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Reeder</title>
		<link>http://blog.cambiareproductions.com/2008/03/20/church/comment-page-1/#comment-1828</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Reeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 16:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed!  I am one of those frustrating folks who believes that theatre still retains a tiny, glowing shred of its religious/ritualistic roots, and I am afraid that our theatre audiences (like everyone else in this world) are being to trained by commercials and marketers to step into the theatre (like everything else) as consumers, and not as participants in an experience or on a journey.  What successful religious institutions do so well is to engage their audiences on a lifelong shared journey, with a common and complex narrative, and a deep sense of belonging.  With a few extreme exceptions, people step into a church to put their world and their lives in perspective, to participate in something that is beyond themselves and to develop within a beloved community.  That seems very much in alignment with the potential power of the theatrical experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed!  I am one of those frustrating folks who believes that theatre still retains a tiny, glowing shred of its religious/ritualistic roots, and I am afraid that our theatre audiences (like everyone else in this world) are being to trained by commercials and marketers to step into the theatre (like everything else) as consumers, and not as participants in an experience or on a journey.  What successful religious institutions do so well is to engage their audiences on a lifelong shared journey, with a common and complex narrative, and a deep sense of belonging.  With a few extreme exceptions, people step into a church to put their world and their lives in perspective, to participate in something that is beyond themselves and to develop within a beloved community.  That seems very much in alignment with the potential power of the theatrical experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Travis Bedard</title>
		<link>http://blog.cambiareproductions.com/2008/03/20/church/comment-page-1/#comment-1826</link>
		<dc:creator>Travis Bedard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is in fact exactly what New Leaf Theatre does. I think it&#039;s great. I worry about it in Austin because the bar isn&#039;t on the corner and once you get in the car you lose half of the interested folks and you lose the breath you shared in the space. Shorter answer: you&#039;re right I haven&#039;t figured that out here to my satisfaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is in fact exactly what New Leaf Theatre does. I think it&#39;s great. I worry about it in Austin because the bar isn&#39;t on the corner and once you get in the car you lose half of the interested folks and you lose the breath you shared in the space. Shorter answer: you&#39;re right I haven&#39;t figured that out here to my satisfaction.</p>
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		<title>By: plainkate</title>
		<link>http://blog.cambiareproductions.com/2008/03/20/church/comment-page-1/#comment-1825</link>
		<dc:creator>plainkate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, I love when refreshments are served with a blog post.  Secondly, I am all about cultivating community by sharing ideas with the audience, yet not everyone enjoys a post-show discussion as much as this nerdy girl does, so are there less formal ways we might do this?  What if we invited the audience to join us at the bar, for instance (see the aforementioned refreshments) where we could enjoy a collective post-show kibbitz?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, I love when refreshments are served with a blog post.  Secondly, I am all about cultivating community by sharing ideas with the audience, yet not everyone enjoys a post-show discussion as much as this nerdy girl does, so are there less formal ways we might do this?  What if we invited the audience to join us at the bar, for instance (see the aforementioned refreshments) where we could enjoy a collective post-show kibbitz?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Keenan</title>
		<link>http://blog.cambiareproductions.com/2008/03/20/church/comment-page-1/#comment-1425</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Keenan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 01:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dig it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dig it!</p>
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